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Archive for January, 2008
Thursday, January 31st, 2008
By Carmella Broome, Ed.S., LPC/I, LMFT/I
There is a lot of talk among marriage counselors about the 4 A’s that can spell doom for marriages. These “big four” are abuse, addictions, adultery, and abandonment.
There is another set of four A’s, though. This second set is much more positive and recommended for every marriage. They are appreciation, apology, attention, and affection.
Appreciation. When couples come to see me for their first session, they often want to know what they can immediately start doing to move their marriage towards a more positive place. This is also true for individuals who come in hoping their spouse will eventually join them for couples counseling. My first suggestion is “appreciate your partner more.” I say this because, a lot of times, spouses can become very focused on the negative things their partner does, or get hung up on the things their spouse doesn’t do, and loose sight of what the other person is doing right.
Appreciation means saying, “Thank you,” when your spouse does something nice or thoughtful. It also means stating your gratitude when your spouse does something you think they should have been doing for months or that you think is just common courtesy. Appreciation is for when your husband brings you flowers and for when he puts his socks in the hamper. It is for when your wife lets you pick the radio station in the car or offers to drive so you can nap or enjoy the scenery, and when she hurries in the shower so you’ll have some hot water. It is for when the dishes get put away or the trash gets taken out or the kids are given a bath or when you are surprised by a romantic dinner. Appreciation is for big things but is just as much for the little every day things.
Appreciation is most effective when it is specific. That is, when it is expressed in reference to specific behaviors you observed and liked. “I really liked the way you took time to look at Katie’s drawings, even though you were in a hurry to get out the door on time. I really appreciate it when you give our kids attention like that.” Or, “I really appreciate the way you didn’t snap back at me last night when I was cranky. Thank you for that. It means a lot to me.”
You can give appreciations in person, over the phone, or by text or email or note. Just remember to notice, and comment on, what your spouse does “right” rather than just focusing on, or complaining about, the things he or she does “wrong.”
Apologies. This seems simple. When you know you did something wrong or said something hurtful, you go to the person you wronged or offended and say, “I’m sorry.” For many people, this is much easier said than done, though. We want to explain or defend ourselves, rationalize our actions or words, make excuses, blame the other person, or anything else. It is very humbling to say, “I’m sorry. I was wrong. Please forgive me.”
Apologies have to be sincere. You can’t say you’re sorry for shouting something hurtful when you’re angry and then turn around and do the same thing next time you’re angry. If you keep apologizing for a certain behavior (swearing, drinking too much, not putting the lid back on the toothpaste), but continue engaging in that behavior over and over, the apology means nothing. It is just a way for you to try and clear your conscience but it holds no weight in your partner’s heart or mind. They know you are just saying words of regret out of a sense of obligation or habit.
Apologies are effective when your partner feels that you really know you made a mistake and that you really will do your best not to let something similar happen again. If necessary, it means letting them know you have a plan to take action to minimize the chances of repeating the same behavior. This may include taking a time out when angry, getting up five minutes earlier so you can pick up a little after yourself before leaving for work, or even going to counseling or seeking other outside help if you have a problem you can’t seem to manage on your own.
Apologies don’t include the word “but,” or anything similar. If you want to help your spouse understand what lead to whatever you said or did, that can come later. Otherwise, whether you mean it to or not, it will seem like you are trying to explain or rationalize your words or actions. Say you are sorry, name the behavior you are apologizing for, and humbly state that you know you were wrong and hope the other person will forgive you. It may also be helpful to state that you know your words or actions were hurtful or upsetting so your partner knows you are trying to be in tune with how he/she is feeling.
Attention. Paying attention means being aware and observant in your marriage. It means really “showing up” not just phoning in your participation or physically being present while being mentally somewhere else.
Paying attention or giving attention means your spouse gets pieces of your time and energy throughout the day. This is about noticing what your spouse is wearing, being interested in his/her day, and knowing the things that are important to him/her. Paying attention means remembering to ask about that big work project or stressful situation with colleagues. It means calling just to say “Hi, I was thinking about you,” or saying, “You look nice in that sweater.” Paying attention also means looking at your spouse when he/she is talking to you and being aware enough to say, “You look angry/worried/upset. What’s up?” It means remembering anniversaries and birthdays and other dates that are important to your spouse. It means setting aside time to focus on your spouse and your relationship. Time should be set aside each week to really talk, go to dinner, or engage in an activity that will allow you to focus on your spouse and nurturing the friendship and romance. This is very important for every couple. But paying attention to your spouse can’t just happen during these “designated” times. It also must be done in small ways every day.
Affection. Affection means touch. This does not just mean sex. It does not just mean “making a move” on your spouse or even being flirty, though touch is very important for romance and sexual intimacy.
It means small gestures of physical contact throughout the day. It means brushing your spouse’s arm when you walk by, a light touch on the back or shoulder, reaching over to take your spouse’s hand while riding in the car, or a playful poke or swat. It means offering hug when your spouse gets home from a long day at work, rubbing his/her feet, or snuggling on the couch while watching TV.
It is important that touch be given at other times besides in the bedroom or when trying to initiate sex. Touch is a way of connecting with your partner and does not have to have an ulterior motive. It is friendly and supportive and helps your partner feel close to you.
Affection can also include aiming a smile your partner’s way, calling them by a special pet name, or giving them a wink or a nod.
Add more of these 4 A’s to your marriage and you’ll be reducing, and even preventing, a lot of common marital difficulties. The climate of your relationship will be more positive and you’ll be working smarter, rather than working harder, at strengthening the bond between you and your spouse. The four A’s make the good times more satisfying and make the rough times harder to get through.
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Monday, January 28th, 2008

1. What made you fall in love with your partner, and what do you love most about him/her now?
2. When did you feel the most loved by your partner, and what specific things did he/she do to make you feel loved?
3. What needs to happen to make your partner a better friend?
4. What have you learned about being married that surprises you?
5. What do you imagine your relationship will look like 10 years from now?
6. What is the best thing that has happened to you and your partner in the past year?
7. What is your relationship’s strongest point, and what areas can be enriched?
8. Are you able to talk openly about your sexual needs with your partner?
9. Is this the relationship you expected, hoped or dreamed it would be?
10. When is the right time to get professional help with a relationship?
11. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the ideal, how would each of you rate your ability to resolve conflicts?
12. Do you and your partner share enough fun times, and what are some fun things you could do?
13. Do you spend at least 20 minutes a day talking about things other than children, finances, or work?
14. What are the 5 most romantic things your partner has ever done for you, or you wish he/she would do?
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Wednesday, January 23rd, 2008
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Monday, January 14th, 2008
By George Marut
Of all the promises you’ll make on your wedding day, the “for richer or for poorer” bit is likely to cause the most problems. According to a survey by the Association of Bridal Consultants, more than 67% of newlyweds believe the most serious conflict in their first year of marriage is over money. (Problems with in-laws rank a distant second.) Financial experts are full of anecdotes about young couples and financial discord. It’s often the details that drive people crazy. Small problems often grow into larger ones, because some people find it easier to talk about anything other than money. That, of course, is the worst-case scenario. But merging your finances does require a lot of work initially. And it takes a lot of maintenance to keep everything up to date and both spouses informed. But taking a few easy steps will save you a lot of headaches — and arguing — in the long run.
1. Cash Flow
Managing cash flow is an important lesson taught at all top business schools but one often learned the hard way when it comes to managing family finances. “Getting in over your head” is an expression that often times is used to describe poor case management. Everything you purchase from you home, car(s), and various items on credit carry a corresponding debt on your family’s financial balance sheet. The importance of proper cash flow will affect how well you can complete the next steps.2. Meet the Marriage Penalty
In testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee on February 4, 1998, June O’Neill, then Director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said, “the incompatibility of progressive rates, equal treatment of married couples, and marriage neutrality results in a continuing tension within the tax code.”
Bush’s latest tax cut provided some much needed marriage-penalty relief. Now the 15% tax bracket is exactly twice as wide as the 15% tax bracket for singles. And the standard deduction is now double what it is for singles as well.
But assuming you and your new spouse earn more than $56,801 (in 2003) and you plan to file joint returns, you will still experience some tax punishment for tying the knot. So prepare to pay more come April 15.
One thing you shouldn’t do is run to your human-resources office to change your W-4. At least not if you and your spouse are both working. Once you indicate that you’re married, the rules assume that one spouse doesn’t work. As a result, your withholding will actually decline. And that’s just the opposite of what you want. If you’re both working and you don’t own a home, it should be ’single, one’ all the way according to most CPAs.
3. Pay Down the Debt
It’s a common scenario: One person comes into a marriage with a lot of savings, another enters the relationship with credit card debt up to the ears. “Opposites attract. That’s what makes it exciting,” says Ruth L. Hayden, a financial educator and author of Richer for Poorer: The Money Book for Couples. But “when it comes to money, we wish we were married to a clone.” Even though the thrifty spouse is not liable for debt incurred before the marriage, the free spender’s history is sure to affect a couple’s chances of obtaining credit in the future. And if you’re in the market for a new home, you’ll probably be applying jointly. That should be motivation for you to pay down the debt together.
4. Examine Your Balance Sheet
Before you can make any decisions about budgeting, investing or saving for a house, you have to know how much you own and how much you owe. We tell our clients to put together a combined balance sheet, on which they list assets and debts, and update the list semiannually.
You should also check your overall portfolio and rebalance if necessary. You may discover that together, you’re overweighted in one particular stock or sector. You’ll also want to look ahead to retirement and figure out a way to maximize contributions and invest as aggressively or conservatively as you should given your age and goals.
5. Protect Your Incomes
What you do need is insurance, both life and disability, especially if you’re relying on both of your incomes. You might get insurance through your benefits plan at work that will cover 60% to 70% of your income, but it’s probably a good idea to supplement that. Brian Biederman, CFP from Raleigh advises clients about the taxability of Disability Insurance. A key point of Disability Insurance that most people miss is the tax implications. Regardless of who pays the premiums, (you or your employer) you get at most 70% of pre-disability income. If you (the employee) pay the premium the benefits are Tax-Free. So, the real question is whether you want 70% of your income, taxable or tax-free. It can be expensive, but it’s worth your attention. If your spouse can’t work, passes unexpectedly, can’t leave the house even and needs home health care and so on, you have to pay for that.
6. Paperwork, Paperwork, Paperwork
You thought planning the wedding took a lot of organizational skills? Wait until you try to track down everything that has your name on it — or that you named a beneficiary for — a mortgage, 401(k)s, IRAs, disability insurance and life insurance. If you have a will already, you’ll want to change it, if not you need to have one drawn up. These decisions are especially important for second marriages in which there are children involved.
7. Talk Money
Above all, it’s important to communicate regularly and openly about money. If that means setting aside a time each week or each month for a state-of-the-finances chat, then do it. (We suggest rewarding yourself with a dinner out or a movie after each financial-planning session.) But it’s essential to keep each other informed, especially if one person tends to deal with all the money maintenance, while the other handles different tasks.
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Monday, January 14th, 2008
By Lisa and Bill Horst
(Owners of William Ashley Agency, a Raleigh traditional matchmaking service )
It seems that something becomes amiss somewhere between Cutting the Cake festivities and eating that last piece on your one-year anniversary. No one told you marriage was hard. Really hard. And that’s just the first year (pre-kids, multiple jobs, and a house purchase). Indeed, it seemed that finding your lifelong mate was the hard part; you’re home free after that! No more first dates, bad dates, or lonely nights with a bowl of ice cream.
The current popularity of chick flicks, reality TV dating shows, books, and courses on how to get married all attest to how hard this part, the part you got right, the part you hold right now, is. But that’s just the beginning. Oh, they tell you that. But no one really explains it. They say, “This is only the beginning,” in a way that seems like, “This is only the beginning of daily bliss until eternity.” Really, the day you get married is only the beginning of figuring how to keep two different people — no matter how well-suited — living and growing together for the next 50 years.
You pick up tips over the years from friends and family: Never go to bed angry. Hold hands when you fight to remind yourselves you’re always on the same side. Compromise. But these are tools (albeit good ones). They don’t get at some very basic truths: You Will Not Always Like — Let Alone Feel Loving Toward — Your Spouse. We all know couples who say they were born to be together. But more often than not, successful relationships are created by two willing and able individuals who have enough commonalities and chemistry to try to make a go of it. That means your spouse does not have 100 percent of the qualities on your mental checklist.
You’re married, so you’ve accepted this. But recognizing this means by default you do not like everything about him/her. And some days, that will mean that those less-than-endearing qualities will grate on your every last nerve more prominently than others. Some days, you will glance over at your spouse and think, “What am I doing with this person?” That’s okay. Because it’s not realistic to think that two wholly separate people — regardless of how well-matched they are — are going to be on the same page every day for the rest of their lives together. Hormones get out of whack. There are bad days at work. Daily life becomes cumbersome. Just be aware that the positive days outweigh the negative.
Marriage Is Not 50-50; It’s 110-0. Marriage is definitely a give-and-take. But compromise doesn’t necessarily mean that each person gives up something for the good of the whole. If you compromise in a 50-50 manner, neither spouse fully gets what he/she wants. No one is fully satisfied. Moreover, some days you are able to give more than you need to receive. Some days, you need to take. How you two complement each other indicates how the scales of giving and receiving will work. But it’s inevitable that there will be certain times when one spouse is doing a lot more giving than receiving. Just know that this give-and-take will fluctuate between the two of you: you might feel exhausted now, but you’ll get the support you need when you ask for it, too. Marriage Is Not An End Unto Itself or Yourself.
Particularly in the early years, it’s easy to become consumed by your passion and romance to the exclusion of much else. You stop doing things with girlfriends. You’d rather stay home and watch a movie than pick up a squash game with your buddies. You even start to look alike. But no one wants Death by Relationship. This suffocates both the relationship and your individual growth. Ensure you maintain all the reasons you were attracted to each other in the first place. Don’t neglect friends or family. Outside interests and relationships only help stimulate yours. As you mature together, find new common interests and explore individuals ones. For example, you both might want to take some classes at the local university, but it doesn’t have to be the same ones. Creating a strong sense of self, recognizing and building on what makes you, you, goes a long way toward maintaining a positive relationship.
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Wednesday, January 9th, 2008
By: Lesli Doares
This time of year finds us between two “romantic” holidays, New Year’s Eve, when we want to be with that special someone at the magical stroke of midnight, and Valentine’s Day, when we celebrate all that being in love means. It is almost unthinkable that we should spend either of these days alone when the rest of the world seems to be running around in pairs. It is also the time of year when we examine our lives and resolve to make changes, one of which may be to find or rekindle the excitement and passion of new love.
Humans are a contrary species. We want both the safety, security and comfort of a committed relationship as well as the breathless, swept off one’s feet exhilaration of being newly in love. As in most things, we have come to expect that we cannot have it all. How often have we heard, or been told, that someone loves somebody but is no longer “in love” with them? How many of us really understand what that means? Do we believe there is a difference or is it just another way to leave a relationship? Is it possible to fall in love stay in love? Yes, but first you must understand the process.
When we fall in love the world looks and feels different. The sun shines brighter, colors are more vivid, food tastes better, everything is more intense. We can stay up all night and still have energy to burn. Our every waking moment is focused on that special someone and their very presence can make the most mundane chore seem like an amusement park ride. We don’t give a second thought to things that just a short time ago consumed us. Our lives feel out of control but we are enthralled by the wild ride and have no intention of getting off. It is like we have found the perfect drug and in a way we have.
Falling in love is like being high on drugs, but these drugs are naturally produced by the body. The brain releases two neurotransmitters, dopamine and norepinephrine, when you become attracted to someone and start to fall in love. These neurotransmitters are responsible for your bright outlook, your increased energy and your sharpened sense of perception. Another neurotransmitter, phenylethylamine (PEA), is released when you are with your love giving you a sense of comfort and security. When you are separated levels of PEA drop causing your mood to crash and you experience symptoms of withdrawal, commonly called love sickness.
This stage of love also has a strong psychological component. You see your new love as made for you and completely without flaws. This person knows and meets all your needs without your needing to ask, or even mention. He/she is the solution to all of your emotional problems and will heal all of your childhood wounds. His/her love will make you whole and happy. In the immortal words in Jerry McGuire, your new love will “complete you.”.
Unfortunately, this top-of-the-world euphoria will not last. Usually within six months reality sets in and by the time eighteen to thirty-six months go by you are no longer “in love”. Our bodies are not meant to function in that heightened state for any longer than that. The initial surge of attraction and euphoria is an evolutionary strategy designed to ensure survival of the species. The time allotted to being in love is long enough to act on the attraction, begin the process of procreation and develop a more committed relationship. This new relationship needs to be a deeper and more intimate one that is consciously created if it is to last..
Creating a lasting and fulfilling relationship with one person requires commitment, the ability to compromise and a certain level of tolerance for emotional anxiety. We cling to the notion of “being in love” because in that state we feel alive and connected to those around us. We feel that we will die if we are not deeply connected to someone else. However, when we look to others to “complete us” we lose our ability to stand on our own two feet. We cannot survive as a separate entity if we only feel whole in the presence of another. The ability to function as an independent entity is what allows us to be truly and deeply connected to another. We are not a couple out of fear of being alone but because we make a conscious choice to be together.
A successful, long term relationship requires work and effort. It is based on giving up the fantasy of finding our “one true soul mate” and being secure enough to let our partner know how important he/she is in our lives. It requires us to love and honor our partner and put their needs and desires on a par with or above our own. Unfortunately most people do not have the tools that will enable them to make a success of a relationship once the bloom is off the rose of love. Our natural tendency is to retreat into ourselves when we are faced with an uncomfortable or unfamiliar situation. It is at this point that we must focus outward if we are to have a successful and fulfilling intimate relationship..
The first step is to be able to see the world through your partner’s eyes. The longer you are with someone the more your acts of love need to reflect their wants and desires instead of your own. If your partner’s idea of fun is to raft down swirling rapids, surprising him with a slow cruise around the Caribbean may not elicit the desired response. If your partner is overworked and stressed out doing a load of laundry or cleaning up the kitchen may be appreciated more than candy and flowers.
Another element necessary to a lifelong relationship is excitement. Excitement releases PEA into your system, gets your heart racing and brings back that intense initial feeling to your relationship. This recharges the system and deepens the emotional bonds. Making time to step outside the usual routine and focusing on being a couple on a regular basis can recharge your relationship.
Relationships take daily effort. It is easy to fall into a routine and take your relationship for granted. It is necessary to nurture the relationship as if it were a separate personality. It has needs that need to be met if it is to thrive and endure. It needs your time and attention as much as any other aspect of your life. You need to be mindful of your relationship and pay attention to its patterns. A relationship requires mutual respect between you and your partner. We often treat complete strangers better than those close to us. Be aware of how you treat each other.
Make time for playfulness and surprise. These qualities will bring back memories of your initial love for each other. Don’t be afraid to show your sensitive, caring side. Writing a love letter to your partner is a way to let your partner know how much you love him/her. Being vulnerable is scary but the payoff may be more consideration and passion from your partner. Create occasions for celebration that have deep meaning for you and your partner. Use what you know about each other’s history to surprise and delight each other. This connecting to a time when you did not know each other can create amazingly deep bonds.
As the celebratory day of love approaches revel in the joy of new found love if you have it. Understand that the constant high it brings is fleeting. If you understand the progression of love you will be able to incorporate this intensity into a more profound and intimate love that really can complete you.
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Wednesday, January 9th, 2008
By:Amy McMillan
“Healthy conflict” may sound like an oxymoron to some - a contradiction of terms. After all, if we are in conflict, we’re not healthy, right? Well, most relationship counselors will specifically disagree. In fact, to have healthy relationships, people must conflict sometimes. Conflict is inevitable, no one agrees with everyone all the time. The question is how to deal with it.
We know that if we have disagreement without acknowledgment, then we create a whole new host of problems. These can be labeled “conflict avoidant”, or “passive aggressive”, or “living quietly & miserably ever after”!! So, we have conflict. That’s life. That’s typical. That’s healthy! Now that we have determined that one must have conflict to be healthy, what constitutes healthy conflict?
Anger is a normal emotion. Anger is not right or wrong. It’s what we do with the anger that can be healthy or unhealthy. Healthy conflict is characterized by an ability to sort out differences in a way that is some what tolerated by those involved. I say some what, because at first the conflict may not be easily or comfortably tolerated, but with a little practice, tolerance levels become more balanced.
It is no secret that we all have different tolerance levels. People who have never been exposed to arguments or conflict may say, “I don’t know how to speak my mind to my spouse, my parents never disagreed in front of me.” People who grew up with fighting parents may have extreme tolerance because that is what they are accustomed to; or they may have no tolerance at all, because they are striving to “not live that way anymore”. Confusing, huh?
As a result of this confusion, and working with many couples of different tolerance levels, upbringings, cultural believes, and more - I have constructed the fair fight rules. These are designed as a guideline to help couples determine how to conflict as fairly, and as comfortably as possible with one another, while still speaking up and voicing their conflicting points of view. Couples can tailor the list with personal rules - agreeing never to bring up a specific topic in an argument for example, or agreeing to take a “time-out” when the discussion is getting too heated. Remember, the purpose is to resolve the conflict, not to simply vent the anger.
- No threats during argument.
- No blanket judgments or labeling generalizations.
- Stay on the topic at hand.
- No interrupting.
- Stay in present tense.
- Don’t argue in the dark.
- Don’t walk away or leave the house without saying to your partner, “I’ll be back”.
- No finger pointing.
- Take responsibility for your thoughts. Use “I” language.
- Write down the topic at the beginning to insure staying on topic and clarify the issue.
- Try to avoid over-dramatization.
- Allow time to collect your thoughts. Immediate response is not necessary.
- Approach the argument with a problem solving attitude, rather than blame.
- Try to avoid statements so critical that the other person has no course but to retaliate.
- Don’t save up feelings and dump them all at once, try to air feelings often.
- Try not to yell.
- Don’t use abusive language or labels.
- No gossip.
- Speak for yourself.
- Neither person is right, there are only differences. Both win when the conflict is resolved.
- Admit you’re angry.
- Go forth as equals. Don’t use power plays. Gauge the intensity of your anger to the ego strengths of the other person and be responsible with the things your mate has entrusted to you in your relationship. YOU ARE ON THE SAME TEAM!
If you cannot resolve the conflict, see a professional who can help each of you hear and understand one another. A relative, neighbor, or friend who usually doesn’t have the training, cannot remain as objective as a counselor, minister, psychologist, or psychiatrist.
Cary Behavioral Health Care
Amy McMillan, MEd, LPC
8000 Regency Pkwy, Ste 260
Cary, NC 27511
919-467-7130
“A comprehensive Approach to Mental Health”
(This excerpt should not be used as a substitute for counseling, and CBHC and clinicians therein have no liability to individuals who do not seek appropriate levels of treatment; all rights reserved).
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Monday, December 17th, 2007
| January 9, 2008 | | 6:00 pm | to | 7:30 pm |
This workshop is sponsored by the Rosen Law Firm and will be held in the Rosen Law Firm’s Raleigh office on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 from 6- 7:30 p.m., led by Susan Orenstein, PhD.
Event Location:
4101 Lake Boone Trail, Suite 500
Falling in love is easy. Staying in love is another matter. Learn
what the latest marital research says about what differentiates the
masters and disasters of marriage. Learn about the types of
communication that build greater intimacy. Leave the workshop with
added confidence that your marriage can be enhanced.
This workshop is for you if:
-You and your spouse keep arguing about the same issues
- You feel like you and your spouse have grown apart and are now like roommates
- You feel resentful, misunderstood, or hurt much of the time
- You and your partner get along well, you just want to feel closer
- You feel hopeless and are considering divorce
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Monday, December 17th, 2007
| January 8, 2008 | | 6:00 pm | to | 7:30 pm |
This workshop is sponsored by the Rosen Law Firm and will be held in the Rosen Law Firm’s Charlotte office on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 from 6- 7:30 p.m., led by Michael Hall, PhD.
Event Location:
301 McCullough Drive, Suite 510.
Falling in love is easy. Staying in love is another matter. Learn
what the latest marital research says about what differentiates the
masters and disasters of marriage. Learn about the types of
communication that build greater intimacy. Leave the workshop with
added confidence that your marriage can be enhanced.
This workshop is for you if:
-You and your spouse keep arguing about the same issues
- You feel like you and your spouse have grown apart and are now like roommates
- You feel resentful, misunderstood, or hurt much of the time
- You and your partner get along well, you just want to feel closer
- You feel hopeless and are considering divorce
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